Black white but mostly gray. 

 What it’s all about …

Welcome to ‘Black, White, but Mostly Gray’ – where conversations thrive in the nuance of human experience. We believe that understanding emerges not in absolutes, but in the thoughtful interplay of perspectives. Our mission is to foster dialogue that transcends color, transcends boundaries, and dives into the shades of gray that define our shared humanity. Through compassionate conversations, we aim to bridge divides and illuminate the common threads that bind us all. Join us in our journey to create a world that embraces the beauty of diversity and celebrates the richness of our collective stories.

 Our Mission …

Our mission is to foster dialogue that bridges the divides separating us and illuminates the common threads binding us. We highlight the divine nature within us as we explore the shades of gray defining our shared humanity. 

 What We Believe …

  • We believe in God.
  • We believe racism and discrimination have no place in the world.
  • We believe in keeping an open mind.
  • We believe people should be treated with dignity and respect.
  • We believe it’s best to seek first to understand, then be understood.
  • We believe there is more that unites us than divides us.
  • We believe the status quo needs to be challenged.

aliki, A fearless force

🌟 Born in Uganda, Aliki spent part of her youth in 2 refugee camps while the Idi Amin regime was being dismantled.  She came to the United States as a teen, attended college at a small Midwest University (UWSP),  and now resides  on the East  Coast. She lives her life as a confident woman who embodies boldness, beauty, and unapologetic self-expression. Her words draw from a life rich in experiences and rooted in two vibrant cultures. Whether she’s speaking out on important issues or offering profound insights, Aliki’s voice is a beacon of truth and empowerment.  

Danno, Maverick in motion

🌟  Dan is a follower of Jesus who’s journey these days is guided by a strong sense of purpose. He’s a  60 something white guy, born in a small Midwestern City (Argyle, Wi)), whose traveled extensively and lived in the Twin Cities, Chicago, Stevens Point, Manhattan and Milwaukee. He’s a proud dad and grandpa, a seasoned marketing pro and a man with an opinion he’s willing to share with anyone who cares to listen.  Dan is all about equity, diversity and dismantling prejudice.  He and Aliki launched this podcast to help contribute to a more inclusive, less divisive and more understanding world.   

erika, inspiring gladiator 

🌟 Erika doesn’t just live; she thrives on the edge. As a former roller derby skater, she weaves through life’s twists and turns with grit and grace. She’s a versatile marketing dynamo and the Queen  of project facilitation. Calm and cool, Erika’s sardonic wit is the sharp blade she conceals behind her velvet curtain of courtesy and logic. As a confident Asian American Female Trailblazer, Erika’s voice echoes through boardrooms and beyond. She’s a modern day gladiator and an inspiration to all.

Kono, the man behind the music

We are grateful to our good friend Kono (aka Kalonji Kogniak Kadima) and his KP Platinum Sounds Studios for producing the original music for our podcast.  If you’re a musician or recording artist, check out KP Platinum Sounds Studios for “that clean, high quality, industry, platinum sound! “

"No one is born hating another person because of the color of their skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love. For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." ~ Nelson Mandela

“Walk with me for a while, my friend—you in my shoes, I in yours—and then let us talk.” ~ Richelle E. Goodrich

~ Richelle E. Goodrich

"Seek first to understand then to be understood." ~ Stephen Covey